NSP:159 Spearos on Seaspiracy with Bret Whitman and Jon Stenstrom

NSP:159 Spearos on Seaspiracy with Bret Whitman and Jon Stenstrom

Round Table Discussion with Shrek, Bret Whitman and Jon Stenstrom about Seaspiracy

Today’s episode is likely to ruffle some feathers! Join Shrek as he has a really in depth discussion with Bret Whitman of the Spearfactor Podcast as well as Jon Stenstrom of the Cast and Spear Podcast about all things “Seaspiracy”! The good, the bad and everything in between. If you haven’t seen the Netflix film yet, Seaspiracy is a film by Ali Tabrizi that shows the environmental impact of the fishing industry, highlighting the problem of overfishing and plastic waste in our oceans. The film definitely brings up good points and highlights some really serious issues but also falls short on several different topics. Shrek, Bret and Jon go through the film and apply a spearo’s eye to it to see if ultimately we should all stop eating fish, as the film suggests. Give us your thoughts, whether you agree or disagree, let us know!

Important Times:

Bret Whitman with a tuna

Jon Stenstrom Cast and Spear

  • 07:00 Welcome to the man, the myth, the legend: Shrek!

Shrek at Kilsby Sinkhole

  • 08:25 We are going to chat about Seaspiracy
  • 09:05 Bret’s first thoughts
  • 10:49 Shrek’s first thoughts
  • 11:33 Jon’s first thoughts
  • 13:54 The positive impact of the film
  • 15:31 The influence of money
  • 17:20 Don’t eat fish: what did you think about that?
  • 18:14 Diversity of opinions
  • 19:45 A strange problem arises
  • 20:34 Southern Bluefin Tuna and the governmental issues
  • 21:36 A real solution?
  • 22:04 Silly questions
  • 22:35 The role of animals in the food industry and the journalism side of the film
  • 23:32 Shark fins
  • 24:06 Bad facts ruin your good message
  • 27:40 Brandolini’s law
  • 30:23 Fishermen need to band together
  • 31:34 Success stories
  • 33:29 Fishing has a marketing problem
  • 35:02 Legitimate issues highlighted – plastic
  • 37:03 Look at the funding behind these messages
  • 38:44 It’s great he decided to do something about this
  • 42:11 First world countries are a problem too
  • 43:00 Spearing vs commercial fishing boats
  • 45:40 Influencing public opinion to influence demand on certain species
  • 47:26 Well how do you manage international waters?
  • 48:16 No thought to sustainability when you are trying to survive
  • 49:30 Propaganda to support local fisheries
  • 53:54 Long liners
  • 55:39 Accurate data, have you met a wealthy fisherman?
  • 56:42 Measures of success for a fisherman
  • 57:01 Sea Shepard inside story
  • 59:28 Chinese oceans
  • 60:28 The organized crime element
  • 63:31 Making these documentaries to have a bigger effect
  • 62:30 “There’s no such thing as a sustainable fishery”
  • 64:02 Dispersion of responsibility
  • 66:02 Put your money where your mouth is
  • 69:28 Discussion from the Noob Spearo Facebook community
  • 70:08 Disclaimer from Shrek
  • 70:54 Killing whales
  • 72:24 The reality of hunting
  • 76:05 Apply your moral framework
  • 76:57 Whale hunting treaty
  • 78:24 “Cute” animals
  • 78:38 Shrek’s vegetarian room mate
  • 80:34 Sage thoughts on the conclusion of the film
  • 81:15 Agriculture has its issues too
  • 81:40 The morale issue
  • 82:52 The ultimate solution
  • 84:30 Perspective is key
  • 86:30 Respect for Ali
  • 86:40 Contacts
  • 87:32 Outro and Shrek’s final thoughts

 

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NSP:158 Renee Taylor: Salt Sisters

NSP:158 Renee Taylor: Salt Sisters

Interview with Renee Taylor – The Salt Sisters

SALT Sisters logo

Kia kaha, kia maia, kia manawanui // Be strong, be brave, be steadfast

Join Shrek as he chats with Renee Taylor, speech therapist, business owner, lover of the sea and co-founder of the Salt Sisters, an initiative that connects women to the ocean, themselves, and to each other through bespoke Wāhine Weekends and Salt Sessions. Above all else she is a lover of the natural world and a frothing speara to say the least! Come have a listen as they chat about Salt Sisters and what they do, how you can join, what her journey in spearfishing has been and what it means to her, they also have a good time speaking about many things in New Zealand!  Have a listen and let us know what you think!

Renee and Amber on Shepardes magazine

Salt sisters

Important Times:

  • 03:10 Welcome
  • 03:30 How did your speech therapy start?
  • 05:39 Desire to get into the natural world, scuba diving
  • 06:30 Getting a free “apprenticeship”
  • 08:00 Getting into freediving with the Auckland freediving club
  • 09:00 Freediving connected you to the ocean
  • 09:34 Spearfishing is barbaric
  • 10:58 Frothing on spearing and how SALT Sisters started

salt sisters jumping in water

  • 12:00 The healing power of freediving
  • 13:50 Respect and Fear for the ocean
  • 14:51 What problems did you encounter when you started freediving?
  • 17:00 Are the numbers important?
  • 17:58 Spearfishing competitions and how they’ve changed
  • 20:01 What hunting and equipment challenges have you faced?
  • 22:08 Wetsuits for women
  • 25:54 Business opportunity
  • 28:25 You’re passionate about your message, how do you get it across?
  • 31:45 Where are your origins?
  • 32:58 Wahine Divers
  • 34:54 Tell me about SALT Sisters and the events you run

Salt sisters camp

  • 37:17 Meeting her business partner Amber
  • 37:48 How’s Covid changed things?
  • 38:20 What events have you run so far?
  • 40:46 Learning the freediving before the spearing
  • 41:29 Freediving ambitions and courses
  • 43:08 SALT Intro pool sessions
  • 43:27 Where can people find you? (See link below)
  • 44:03 What are you busy learning now?

Renee taylor after doing a freediving course

  • 45:02 Finding less common, more sustainable fish
  • 46:57 Getting scientists and marine biologists involved
  • 47:30 Rewilding weekend
  • 48:27 Sage advice
  • 48:42 How are you cooking Jack Mackeral and Koheru?
  • 49:53 Eat What You Kill 
  • 50:46 99 Spearo recipes
  • 51:06 Where do you get your cooking inspiration?
  • 52:06 New Zealand fisheries management
  • 53:16 Funny stories
  • 57:06 What’s in your equipment bag?
  • 58:28 Vava’u trip in Tonga
  • 58:54 Whales
  • 63:42 Another funny story
  • 64:43 Spearo Q&A
    • Who is your most influential spearo or speara?
    • Bucket list fish?
    • Favourite dive buddy?
    • Describe your spearfishing experience in one sentence
  • 67:27 Contact details
  • 68:03 Final thoughts and outro

salt sisters laughing at camp

 

Renee Taylor freediving no fins

 

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NSP:157 Harry Foster the Master Chef Spearo

NSP:157 Harry Foster the Master Chef Spearo

Interview with Harry Foster – the Master Chef Spearo

Today’s interview is with Harry Foster, the Masterchef Spearo! Apart from being an exceptional chef, he is also an absolute frother when it comes to spearing and has a passion for connecting the catching to the cooking. Learn some chef skills that every spearo should know, what kitchen utensils you should have and the biggest mistakes spearos make with fish in the kitchen! We’ve included two of the recipes mentioned in the show so you can go have a go yourself!
Whether working as a chef on a remote island or out spearing or even just taking pictures, he has a wealth of knowledge on the natural world and the animals that live around him. His Instagram stories will show you exactly what we mean. We think you will enjoy today’s episode and we hope that you will try the recipes! Let us know your thoughts in the comments!

If you haven’t seen his Instagram page yet, do yourself a favour and go look! Also check out his website for some amazing recipes!

Hazfos freediving

Fish wings 2

Important Times:

  • 01:00 Joe Murphy message
  • 02:05 Old Man Blue voicenote
  • 04:30 Welcome Harry Foster, how did you begin spearfishing?
  • 05:58 Diving in Far North Queensland
  • 07:42 How far away are you from the Great Barrier Reef?
  • 08:55 The appeal of inshore reefs and bad conditions
  • 10:02 What made you a hunter?
  • 11:43 Dealing with saltwater crocodiles
  • 14:56 Early obstacles
  • 16:30 Northern Freediver Facebook group
  • 17:56 Spearfishing culture and the reason for the Noob Spearo podcast
  • 20:10 Shooting his first footballer

Harry and his Footballer

  • 22:50 Harry’s spearfishing ethos
  • 23:36 How did you get into photography?
  • 24:52 Getting great shots
  • 27:03 What has been your photography journey and what about Instagram?
  • 29:44 Catch cook videos
  • 30:50 The trouble with film making
  • 32:28 What do you spend your time on?
  • 35:21 You’ve accomplished a lot, let’s talk about your chef skills
  • 36:00 How did you become a chef?
  • 37:26 Connecting the catching with the cooking
  • 39:12 How to get great quality fish
  • 41:08 What is the process of caring for your catch?
  • 44:48 Dry aging
  • 46:02 Slurry tips
  • 48:20 What to do when you get home
  • 51:16 What chef skills that every spearo should learn?
  • 52:26 Using the whole animal
  • 53:54 Using more of the fish
  • 55:30 99 Spearo Recipes
  • 56:48 Where to find Harry
  • 57:50 Kingfish Ceviche
  • 61:54 Octopus preparation
  • 65:06 Great advice for cooking
  • 35:38 Caring for the catch
  • 66:22 My Octopus Teacher (My Octopus Teacher: The Sequel)
  • 68:03 What’s in your gear bag?
  • 70:00 Funny stuff
  • 71:54 First Spanish MackeralHazfos' tattoos
  • 73:25 Spearo Q&A
    • Marine tattoos
    • Favourite dive buddy
    • Spearfishing in one sentance
  • 77:52 Thanks and goodbye

Recipes:

Tandoori fish wings

Tandoori Fish Wings

Tandoori fish wings

kingfish Ceviche

Kingfish Ceviche

Hazfos sitting by the sea

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NSP:156 Bert Keulder – The Old Man Blue: Spearing Gear Legend

NSP:156 Bert Keulder – The Old Man Blue: Spearing Gear Legend

Interview with Bert Keulder – The Old Man Blue

Today’s interview is with Bert Keulder – the Old Man Blue, as you may know him. He’s done everything you can think of in the water, including being tossed into the air by a Great White shark! A well traveled, highly experienced spearo that is deeply in love with the ocean, he has done it all and has an absolute wealth of knowledge from his years growing up near Cape Town, South Africa and living, working and spearfishing all around the world throughout his life. We chat about his early childhood days being dragged around the kelp forests in the Atlantic on an inflated car tube, his days in the military playing underwater hockey to when he worked as a diamond miner along the West Coast of Africa, to living and diving in Fiji with commercial fishermen until finally settling down in WA where he lives and dives today. He is an excellent resource and spearos of any experience level can learn a lot from him. He also makes exceptionally high quality dive gear that is designed to work well and not stop working for a long, long time. If he can give you one piece of advice, ENJOY your diving, be relaxed, take your time and really take in the experience.
Let us know what you think of today’s episode and be sure to check out Old Man Blue’s store.

NSP156 Bert Keulder 1:1

Important Times:

  • 00:20 Intro
  • 04:00 Welcome to Bert and chat about Aqualyte
  • 06:02 Official welcome and Ben’s email
  • 07:50 Old Man Blue gear review
  • 10:14 Estuary Cod bag design
  • 11:24 Aqualyte
  • 13:42 Eating and preparing for a dive day
  • 15:21 How old are you – reflecting back on life
  • 17:00 How did you start diving?
  • 18:42 How has the ocean affected you?
  • 20:40 Childhood diving and getting dragged around the kelp forests
  • 22:52 Hunting Red Steenbras
  • 24:10 My Octopus Teacher
  • 25:52 Eric J Anderson episode
  • 26:38 Diving alone
  • 28:26 Younger divers vs the older generation
  • 29:42 Stages of progression in your spearfishing
  • 30:37 Diving today vs back in the day
  • 33:07 Equipment
  • 36:21 The evolution of spearfishing equipment
  • 37:00 Emphasis on tools vs skills
  • 38:14 The “scarcity mindset”
  • 40:18 Bert’s unsinkable dive boat – The Hallubaloo
  • 43:10 Becoming a boat captain
  • 45:04 Diving the inshore reefs
  • 45:16 Best advice to prospective boat buyers
  • 45:58 The Hallubaloo
the dive boat Hallubaloo

The Hallubaloo

  • 46:46 Sage advice
  • 47:00 Tell us about your boat
  • 48:23 Rules on the boat
  • 49:33 Sustainability and sharing spots
  • 50:15 Don’t be a cowboy
  • 53:16 Sharing fish on the boat
  • 54:26 Spearfishing as a team sport
  • 56:11 A quick story with some more sage advice – the ocean will give you gifts
  • 57:08 Bert’s days in the military
  • 58:44 Seal/Duiker Island in Houtbay
Bert and Garth in Houtbay

Garth and Bert in Houtbay, Cape Town

Duiker Island and Boat

Duiker Island near Houtbay – Image from drumbeatcharters.co.za

 

  • 60:46 Diamond diving
  • 64:06 Can I go dive for my own diamonds?
An old diamond diving setup

An old diamond diving setup

  • 65:42 Travelling
Bert diving with commercial divers in Fiji

Bert diving with commercial divers in Fiji

  • 69:39 The logo and Old Man Blue ethos
  • 75:20 Hunting fish in WA
  • 79:44 How do you slow yourself down?
  • 82:38 Getting stuck and dealing with panic
  • 84:43 Funny stories
  • 89:39 Spearo Q&A:
    Single best piece of advice you’ve received
    Who is the most influential spearo for you?
    Scenario
    What is the spearfishing experience in one sentence?
  • 92:35 Final advice
  • 93:50 Bert’s experience with sharks and getting tossed into the air by a Great White shark
  • 100:10 Shrek’s closing words

 

Cape Point Lighthouse

Cape Point Lighthouse in Cape Town where Bert was tossed into the air by a Great White shark – Photo By Diego Delso

Bert in the old days getting ready for a dive with friends

Getting ready for a dive in the old days

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NSP:155 Aaron Edmonds the 17 y/o Slaying Spearfishing Statesman

NSP:155 Aaron Edmonds the 17 y/o Slaying Spearfishing Statesman

Interview with Aaron Edmonds

I recorded this interview live on a recent Patron Funded trip to South Australia. I stopped off on the way back to Melbourne in Portland, Victoria and got to chat to Aaron overlooking some of his pristine diving/lobster chasing grounds. This interview has heaps of great intel for people wanting to chase Southern Rock Lobster, Southern Bluefin Tuna or even just start spearing in the Victoria/South Australia area. Listen in to Aaron Edmonds share his story and stoke right here!

NSP:155 Aaron Edmonds the 17 y/o Slaying Spearfishing Statesman

Important Times

04:00 Welcome to Aaron Edmonds – live in Portland, Victoria. Getting started spearfishing and a bit about his commercial diving experience.

08:45 Early lessons learned spearfishing

10:00 Chasing Lobster or Crayfish

21:30 Scary Moment | Cramping Out in a Cave

NSP:155 Aaron Edmonds the 17 y/o Slaying Spearfishing Statesman with Isaac Daly aka Shrek from Noob Spearo in Portland, Victoria

29:25 Funny Moments with Jamie

32:00 Underwater Photography | Catching the Bug

40:00 Southern Bluefin Tuna | The Learning Curve!

52:50 Taking out juniors and sharing the stoke

58:40 Spearo Q&A

  • Who has been the most influential person in your spearfishing journey?
  • What are the best spearfishing resources for new spearos?
  • What is your dream spearfishing destination and fish?
  • Could you describe what the spearfishing experience means to you in one sentence
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NSP:154 The Tightarse Spearo with Trevor Ketchion

NSP:154 The Tightarse Spearo with Trevor Ketchion

Interview with Trevor Ketchion

Spearfishing can be seen as a costly sport to get started in and with the huge range of gear for sale these days, it can so easily end up costing a lot more than it needs to. Being a beginner and trying to buy your first pieces of gear can be an intimidating and tricky thing to get right. What do I need to buy new? What can I get away with buying 2nd hand? How do I look after this gear I have invested in? Join Shrek, Trevor Ketchion and Captain Dan Walsh as they discuss being a tightarse spearo and give a run down and discussion on all the basic equipment that a new spearo would need as well as cost cutting and DIY tips, maintenance, what to look for when buying 2nd hand and ultimately where you can cut corners and not cut yourself short. Spearos pride themselves on being able to adapt and be efficient, with our gear it’s no different. Are you a tightarse spearo? Have a listen and let us know what you think about these tips and tricks and comment your DIY tricks! Enjoy the episode!

Important Times

00:16 Introduction

03:28 Welcome to Trevor and Lincoln Smith message

05:00 Ashley Clark Email

06:56 Andrew Boulton Email

07:24 Spearfishing and Money Philosophy

08:08 Ben Vittino Voice Message

Basic Gear Purchasing

13:35 Fins

21:58 Spearguns

30:19 Booties

32:38 Gloves

34:13 Masks

37:46 Snorkels

42:07 Weights

44:47 Rubbish Spearos

45:50 Weight Belts

48:14 Floats and Riglines

58:49 Dive Knives

01:02:05 Dive Bags

Other Stuff

01:06:11 Boats

01:12:00 Electronics

01:15:40 DIY Gear Maintenance

01:24:55 Bargain Bins, Discounted Items and Buying 2nd Hand

01:29:24  Getting Sponsored

01:30:46 Wetsuits

01:33:35 Tips from Captain Dan Walsh

01:35:42 Final Thoughts

Bottom Scratcher Dive Boat LaddersThe Bottom Scratcher’s diver ladders – www.swimdean.com

Trevor runs a Facebook group called Rubbish Spearos, a funny name but it is a great initiative and fun way to clean up your local waterways. People post and compare “Deathpiles” of dozens of sinkers, lures, bits of plastic and even a few treasures found along the way! Go check it out! –> Rubbish Spearos

 

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